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[电气] 规范对救生艇和救生兼救助艇的装置的应急电源要求??

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发表于 2016-7-16 10:33 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式 来自: 中国浙江舟山
各位大神如题讨论下是否有这要求,是否需要应急电源,设计中有的是应急的有的是正常的。小弟找了SOLAS没有相关要求。请有知道相关规范的指导下。谢了!
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发表于 2016-7-16 12:40 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国北京
本帖最后由 江海直达 于 2016-7-16 16:16 编辑

这个问题啊,你得仔细查阅,LSAcode。
分两种情况,一种是用DAVIT释放的救生艇,另一种是抛落式救生艇,两种释放装置的电源配置有差异。有兴趣的话,我可以将我所了解的配置要求告诉你。

我相信你说的是,回收和释放装置的电源配置问题?

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 楼主| 发表于 2016-7-16 14:41 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江舟山
江海直达 发表于 2016-7-16 12:40
这个问题啊,你得仔细查阅,LSAcode。
分两种情况,一种是用DAVIT释放的救生艇,另一种是抛落式救生艇,两 ...

LSAcode 国际救生设备规则我找过了。没有提过相应的章节啊
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发表于 2016-7-16 16:11 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东中山
按LSA CODE的要求,救生艇或救助艇的启动装置应“4.4.6.2 发动机应设有手启动系统, 或设有使用两个独立的可再次补充的动力启动系统”,照明和信号系统是用电池(可以充电)的。因此,救生艇或救助艇不存在应急电源这么个概念。
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发表于 2016-7-16 16:18 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国北京
陈迈可 发表于 2016-7-16 16:11
按LSA CODE的要求,救生艇或救助艇的启动装置应“4.4.6.2 发动机应设有手启动系统, 或设有使用两个独立的可 ...

楼主说的问题,估计是问艇的回收和释放装置的电源供电问题。
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发表于 2016-7-16 16:31 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国北京
pinkli 发表于 2016-7-16 14:41
LSAcode 国际救生设备规则我找过了。没有提过相应的章节啊

麦可提供的章节,再对一下。
你的问题是:

艇的电瓶充电电源?
释放回收装置的电源供电问题?
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 楼主| 发表于 2016-7-16 16:40 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江舟山
江海直达 发表于 2016-7-16 16:31
麦可提供的章节,再对一下。
你的问题是:

释放和回收装置的电源问题。
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 楼主| 发表于 2016-7-16 16:44 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江舟山
陈迈可 发表于 2016-7-16 16:11
按LSA CODE的要求,救生艇或救助艇的启动装置应“4.4.6.2 发动机应设有手启动系统, 或设有使用两个独立的可 ...

是释放和回收装置电源问题
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发表于 2016-7-16 16:50 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国北京
pinkli 发表于 2016-7-16 16:40
释放和回收装置的电源问题。

等迈克,他是专家,在舾装方面。
再有,建议你看原文,LSA code,翻译的,有时不准确。
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发表于 2016-7-18 09:08 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东中山
@江海兄,我不是专家,偶尔做一些拍板砖的;
关于救生艇,救助艇的降落装置的电力供应问题,请看你所在的船的电力单线图,艇吊的电力是由应急配电板供电(已经配电板再连接到主配电板供电),这就已经解决了既可以主发电机供电和应急发电机供电;另外,艇吊在全船失去电力供应后,是通过艇吊的蓄能器和手动摇把进行特殊情况应急释放。
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发表于 2016-7-18 09:40 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
本帖最后由 江海直达 于 2016-7-18 11:59 编辑
江海直达 发表于 2016-7-16 16:50
等迈克,他是专家,在舾装方面。
再有,建议你看原文,LSA code,翻译的,有时不准确。

抛落艇的释放, 及其能源配置:

6.1.3 Float-free launching
. Where a survival craft requires a launching appliance and is also designed to float-free, the float free release of the survival craft from its stowed position shall be automatic.


6.1.4 Launching appliances for free-fall lifeboats
6.1.4.1. Every free-fall launching appliance shall comply with the applicable requirements of paragraph 6.1.1 and, in addition, shall comply with the requirements of this paragraph.


6.1.4.2. The launching appliance shall be designed and installed so that it and the lifeboat it serves operate as a system to protect the occupants from harmful acceleration forces as required by paragraph 4.7.3.1 and 4.7.3.2.


6.1.4.3. The launching appliance shall be constructed so as to prevent sparking and incendiary friction during the launching of the lifeboat.


6.1.4.4. The launching appliance shall be designed and arranged so that in its ready to launch position, the distance from the lowest point on the lifeboat it serves to the water surface with the ship in its lightest seagoing condition does not exceed the lifeboat’s free-fall certification height, taking into consideration the requirements of paragraph].


6.1.4.5. The launching appliance shall be arranged so as to preclude accidental release of the lifeboat in its unattended stowed position. If the means provided to secure the lifeboat cannot be released from inside the lifeboat, it shall be so arranged as to preclude boarding the lifeboat without first releasing it.


6.1.4.6. The release mechanism shall be arranged so that at least two independent actions from inside the lifeboat are required in order to launch the lifeboat.


6.1.4.7. Each launching appliance shall be provided with a secondary means to launch the lifeboat by falls. Such means shall comply with the requirements of paragraph It must be capable of launching the lifeboat against unfavourable conditions of trim of up to only 2° and list of up to only 5° either way and it need not comply with the speed requirements of paragraphs [20Register\Rulefinder\9.20\Rulefinder_STAT.chm::/l21.1.3.2.3.25.14.2.html]6.1.2.8 and 6.1.2.9. If the secondary launching appliance is not dependent on gravity, stored mechanical power or other manual means, the launching appliance shall be connected both to the ship’s main and emergency power supplies.


6.1.4.8. The secondary means of launching shall be equipped with at least a single off-load capability to release the lifeboat.

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发表于 2016-7-18 09:48 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
本帖最后由 江海直达 于 2016-7-18 09:49 编辑
江海直达 发表于 2016-7-18 09:40
抛落艇的释放, 及其能源配置:

6.1.3 Float-free launching

靠重力释放的艇架,及其要求:6.1.2 Launching appliances using falls and a winch
6.1.2.1. Every launching appliance using falls and a winch except for secondary launching appliances for free-fall lifeboats, shall comply with the requirements of paragraph 6.1.1[/url] and in addition shall comply with the requirements of this paragraph:

6.1.2.2. The launching mechanism shall be so arranged that it may be actuated by one person from a position on the ship’s deck and, except for secondary launching appliances for free-fall lifeboats, from a position within the survival craft or rescue boat. When launched by a person on the deck, the survival craft or rescue boat shall be visible to that person.

6.1.2.3. Falls shall be of rotation resistant and corrosion resistant steel wire rope.

6.1.2.4. In the case of a multiple drum winch, unless an efficient compensatory device is fitted, the falls shall be so arranged as to wind off the drums at the same rate when lowering, and to wind on to the drums evenly at the same rate when hoisting.

6.1.2.5. The winch brakes of a launching appliance shall be of sufficient strength to withstand:
.1. a static test with a proof load of not less than 1.5 times the maximum working load; and

.2. a dynamic test with a proof load of not less than 1.1 times the maximum working load at maximum lowering speed.


6.1.2.6. An efficient hand gear shall be provided for recovery of each survival craft and rescue boat. Hand gear handles or wheels shall not be rotated by moving parts of the winch when the survival craft or rescue boat is being lowered or when it is being hoisted by power.

6.1.2.7. Where davit arms are recovered by power, safety devices shall be fitted which will automatically cut off the power before the davit arms reach the stops in order to prevent overstressing the falls or davits, unless the motor is designed to prevent such overstressing.

6.1.2.8. The speed at which the fully loaded survival craft or rescue boat is lowered to the water shall not be less than that obtained from the formula:


. where S is the lowering speed in metres per second and H is the height in metres from the davit head to the waterline with the ship at the lightest sea-going condition.


6.1.2.9. The lowering speed of a fully equipped liferaft without persons onboard shall be to the satisfaction of the Administration. The lowering speed of other survival craft, fully equipped but without persons on board, shall be at least 70%, of that required by paragraph 6.1.2.8.

6.1.2.10. The maximum lowering speed shall be established by the Administration having regard to the design of the survival craft or rescue boat, the protection of its occupants from excessive forces, and the strength of the launching arrangements taking into account inertia forces during an emergency stop. Means shall be incorporated in the appliance to ensure that this speed is not exceeded.

6.1.2.11. Every launching appliance shall be fitted with brakes capable of stopping the descent of the survival craft or rescue boat and holding it securely when loaded with its full complement of persons and equipment; brake pads shall, where necessary, be protected from water and oil.

6.1.2.12. Manual brakes shall be so arranged that the brake is always applied unless the operator, either on deck or in the survival craft or rescue boat, holds the brake control in the "off" position.

6.1.2.13. A lifeboat launching appliance shall be provided with means for hanging-off the lifeboat to free the on-load release mechanism for maintenance.

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发表于 2016-7-18 19:36 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国北京
仔细阅读11,12楼的,有啥疑问,可以再讨论。
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发表于 2016-7-18 21:50 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
对于自由降落式救生艇释放装置LSA 要求如下:
6.1.4 Launching appliances for free-fall lifeboats
6.1.4.7. Each launching appliance shall be provided with a secondary means to launch the lifeboat by falls. Such means shall comply with the requirements of paragraph 6.1.1 (except 6.1.1.3) and paragraph 6.1.2 (except 6.1.2.6). It must be capable of launching the lifeboat against unfavourable conditions of trim of up to only 2° and list of up to only 5° either way and it need not comply with the speed requirements of paragraphs 6.1.2.8 and 6.1.2.9. If the secondary launching appliance is not dependent on gravity, stored mechanical power or other manual means, the launching appliance shall be connected both to the ship’s main and emergency power supplies.
对于救生兼救助艇吊,LSA code里面好像没有要求。我印象中有的船上采用的是正常电源,有些采用的是应急电源。


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 楼主| 发表于 2016-7-19 13:44 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江舟山
陈迈可 发表于 2016-7-18 09:08
@江海兄,我不是专家,偶尔做一些拍板砖的;
关于救生艇,救助艇的降落装置的电力供应问题,请看你所在的 ...

我们图纸都是店里分电箱里面分出去的,没有链接到应配上,船检说了一下,我让他给出规范现在还没有给我,到现在还没给我。
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 楼主| 发表于 2016-7-19 13:46 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江舟山
belick 发表于 2016-7-18 21:50
对于自由降落式救生艇释放装置LSA 要求如下:
6.1.4 Launching appliances for free-fall lifeboats
6.1. ...

是的。我做过的船有的是应配的,国内设计基本都是两路供电,这是韩国设计的。都是主配的。嗯。了解了。谢谢。
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 楼主| 发表于 2016-7-19 13:48 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国浙江舟山
江海直达 发表于 2016-7-18 19:36
仔细阅读11,12楼的,有啥疑问,可以再讨论。

非常感谢江海直达的详细解说,确实没有找到这个要求。又多学习了一下。您真是位大神
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发表于 2016-7-19 15:33 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国江苏扬州
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发表于 2016-7-21 08:22 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国湖北
应该是要应急电源的
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发表于 2016-7-21 08:30 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国湖北
个人认为是要应急电源的
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