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Is SOLAS/MODU/SPS mandatory? What's the relation between them?

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发表于 2021-7-19 07:57 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Recently, I meet A wind farm installation unit owner, the unit is flag in China, and classed by CCS. Then he asked me , the unit is operation in Chinese territorial  water and exclusive economic zone. Then the unit is consider as domestic or international voyage? We have some discuss, and then I am confusing. For ships flag China, there are ships domestic sea-going and ships international sea-going, which meas the ships international sea-going must satisfied the IMO's convention and codes. and then the 2nd question is coming, what is international voyage?  The ship is sea-going to international water?
The owner asked if the ship was designed/construction as International voyage, but the ship is sea-going within Chinese territorial water, then the ship can only satisfied Chinese domestic sea-goingn regulation is engough?
I consider and replied : No. The ship was designed/construction as international voyage, and certified/classed as ship satisfied the IMO convention by CCS and MSA, then the ship should always satisfied the IMO convention and class rules continous, it means a safety level. It not means the ship can change the safety level when the ship sea-going in Chinese territorial water, that's means the the safety level reduced.
Why we have this topic? The reason is the wind farm installation unit is consider as MOU,mobile offshore unit, as defined in SOLAS. but some chapter of SOLAS is not applied to the MOU, but the MODU code is applied to MOU.
Why? Why SOLAS not applied? Why MODU code applied mandatory?
And what is SOLAS, why SOLAS mandatory?
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龙船学院
发表于 2021-7-19 08:26 | 显示全部楼层
入谁的级,谁来解释
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-19 08:51 | 显示全部楼层
1.png In the movie TITANIC, when the ship sunk, what can we do? Can I do something? I considered this in 1996,in the cinema, then I still study in High school. So I majored in Naval Architect when I go to university in 1999. A movie change a youngman's life.
The titanic sunk in 1912 april 14th, she struck an iceberg, on her maiden voyage, more than 1500 people died, it's a disaster very famous and well known worldwide.
Then the major shipping countrier cosiderd make an international standard to increase the safety level, so the fisrt SOLAS was adoped and 1914,the first international convention on safety of life at sea. It's already 100 years ago , today you can still read on line, it is writer by french and english.
https://archive.org/details/textofconvention00inte/page/n7/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater
, for the most Chinese in mainland, you need flip the "GreadWall of internet".
textofconvention00inte_0009.jpg
So the Titanic sunk, the SOLAS exist.
TITANIC.pdf (202.96 KB, 下载次数: 9)
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发表于 2021-7-19 09:04 | 显示全部楼层
这个“铁达尼”确实是个好样板,改变了人类的航海规则,拯救了无数人的生命。

长城就不要翻了,《中华人民共和国计算机信息网络国际联网管理暂行规定》第六条、第十四条。条例显示:计算机信息网络直接进行国际联网,必须使用邮电部国家公用电信网提供的国际出入口信道。任何单位和个人不得自行建立或者使用其他信道进行国际联网。
很多人已经被警告了
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-19 09:27 | 显示全部楼层
xjf 发表于 2021-7-19 09:04
这个“铁达尼”确实是个好样板,改变了人类的航海规则,拯救了无数人的生命。

长城就不要翻了,《中 ...

The law required:
第七条
我国境内的计算机信息网络直接进行国际联网,必须使用邮电部国家公用电信网提供的国际出入口信道。
任何单位和个人不得自行建立或者使用其他信道进行国际联网。
"Law was not forbiden that means allowed. Law never say which website outside is forbidden. Law never say not allowed flip the greatwall. I visit website just for work not for political and still use the 信道 which supplied by CMCC/CTelecom.  IF follow the law, then VPN and proxy agent function shall be forbbiden.
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-19 09:33 | 显示全部楼层
After WWI SOLAS updated,
TS0034.1932.pdf (9.28 MB, 下载次数: 1)
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-19 09:53 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-19 10:45 | 显示全部楼层
STATUS OF IMO TREATIES Not every country signed the treaties, and not treaties applied to every country's ship. You need check the status from IMO website.
So if you ask question, please tell others which flag and which class, the requirements maybe various.
x-Status.xlsx (70.57 KB, 下载次数: 0)
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-19 13:38 | 显示全部楼层
China signed the IMO convention 48 to became member. And China signed the SOLAS 74/78/88, so they apoped and applied to China flag ships. But SOLAS Agreement 96 still not apopted by China and most countries except the west&north european country.
So the SOLAS is mandatory.
But it not means every chapter applied to the everytype of ships.
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CHAPTER I GENERAL PROVISIONS
PART A APPLICATION, DEFINITIONS, ETC.
Regulation 1 Application *
_____
*    For some specific type of ships, refer to other IMO instruments, such as the Code of safety for special purpose ships, 2008 (resolution MSC.266(84)), as amended (2008 SPS Code); the Code for the construction and equipment of mobile offshore drilling units, 2009 (resolution A.1023(26)), as amended (2009 MODU Code); the Code for the transport and handling of hazardous and noxious liquid substances in bulk on offshore support vessels (resolution A.1122(30)) (OSV Chemical Code); the Code of safety for diving systems, 1995 (resolution A.831(19)) (Diving Code, 1995) and so on.
Applicable for all ships from 1980-05-25



(a)  Unless expressly provided otherwise, the present Regulations apply only to ships engaged on international voyages.
(b)  The classes of ships to which each Chapter applies are more precisely defined, and the extent of the application is shown, in each Chapter.


CHINA MSA translate as" 本规则各章适用的船舶种类与适用的范围,在各章中详加规定。”
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-20 11:43 | 显示全部楼层
So according to SOLAS, the wind farm installation unit was class and certified as MODU by CCS, also need follow ISM code.
CHAPTER IX MANAGEMENT FOR THE SAFE OPERATION OF SHIPS
Regulation 1 Definitions
For all ships as defined in regulation 2
Applicable from 1998-07-01. See IMO-Vega Note for amendments



For the purpose of this chapter, unless expressly provided otherwise:
1   "International Safety Management (ISM) Code" means the International Management Code for the Safe Operation of Ships and for Pollution Prevention adopted by the Organization by resolution A.741(18), as may be amended by the Organization, provided that such amendments are adopted, brought into force and take effect in accordance with the provisions of article VIII of the present Convention concerning the amendment procedures applicable to the Annex other than chapter I.
2   "Company" means the owner of the ship or any other organization or person such as the manager, or the bareboat charterer, who has assumed the responsibility for operation of the ship from the owner of the ship and who on assuming such responsibility has agreed to take over all the duties and responsibilities imposed by the International Safety Management Code.
3   "Oil tanker" means an oil tanker as defined in regulation II-1/2.22.
4   "Chemical tanker" means a chemical tanker as defined in regulation VII/8.2.
5   "Gas carrier" means a gas carrier as defined in regulation VII/11.2.
6   "Bulk carrier" means a ship which is constructed generally with single deck, top-side tanks and hopper side tanks in cargo spaces, and is intended primarily to carry dry cargo in bulk, and includes such types as ore carriers and combination carriers. *
_________
* Refer to Interpretation of provisions of SOLAS chapter XII on additional safety measures for bulk carriers (resolution MSC.79(70)) and Clarification of the term “bulk carrier” and guidance for application of regulations in SOLAS to ships which occasionally carry dry cargoes in bulk and are not determined as bulk carriers in accordance with regulation XII/1.1 and chapter II-1 (resolution MSC.277(85)).
7   "Mobile offshore drilling unit (MODU)" means a vessel capable of engaging in drilling operations for the exploration for or exploitation of resources beneath the sea-bed such as liquid or gaseous hydrocarbons, sulphur or salt.
8   "High speed craft" means a craft as defined in regulation X/1.


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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-20 11:58 | 显示全部楼层
According to ISM , the wind farm installation unit shall hold DOC and SMC. As we known for the domestic sea-going ship, there are NSM issued by CHINA MSA.Then strange thing happened, a ship management company have a NSM DOC of other cargo vessel which issued by China MSA became ship management company of this wind farm installation unit's management company without ISM DOC, and the CCS issued the NSM SMC for the wind farm installation unit. How stupid they are?! not only this one, but also others. All the MOUs flag China, have this serious mistake, except COSL.

Accoring to MODU
14.15     Onboard training and instructions *
_____________

*    Refer to the Recommendations for the training and certification of personnel on mobile offshore units (MOUs) (resolution A.1079(28)).

14.15.1 All persons should be provided with familiarization training in accordance with the recommendations of the Organization.
14.15.2 All persons should be provided with training in personal safety and emergency response commensurate with their assigned duties in accordance with the recommendations of the Organization.
Why CHINA MSA issue the minimuim certificate which not followed the MODU?

Why CHINA  MSA consider MOU as cargo ship? How stupid they are!

Pending............
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-20 12:01 | 显示全部楼层
wudi888_2000 发表于 2021-7-19 08:26
入谁的级,谁来解释

It's unfair, break the law.
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-20 13:14 | 显示全部楼层
ISM DOC form
  DOCUMENT OF COMPLIANCE
(Official seal)
(State)
Certificate No.
Issued under the provisions of the
INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION FOR THE SAFETY OF LIFE AT SEA, 1974,
as amended
Under the authority of the Government of
________________________
(name of the State)
by  __________________________________________________________________
(person or organization authorized)

Name and address of the Company
..................................
Company identification number
..................................
..................................
(see paragraph 1.1.2 of the ISM Code)
THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT the safety management system of the Company has been audited and that it complies with the requirements of the International Management Code for the Safe Operation of Ships and for Pollution Prevention (ISM Code) for the types of ships listed below (delete as appropriate):

Passenger ship
Passenger high-speed craft
Cargo high-speed craft
Bulk carrier
Oil tanker
Chemical tanker
Gas carrier
Mobile offshore drilling unit
Other cargo ship

This Document of Compliance is valid until
.......................,
subject to periodical verification.

Completion date of the verification on which this certificate is based:
                              ……………………………(dd/mm/yyyy)

Issued at
......................................
(place of issue of the document)

Date of issue
....................................
(Signature of the duly authorized official issuing the document)

(Seal or stamp of issuing authority, as appropriate)
Certificate No.
ENDORSEMENT FOR ANNUAL VERIFICATION

THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT, at the periodical verification in accordance with regulation IX/6.1 of the Convention and paragraph 13.4 of the ISM Code, the safety management system was found to comply with the requirements of the ISM Code.

1st ANNUAL VERIFICATION
Signed: ................................
(Signature of authorized official)
Place: .................................
Date: ..................................


2nd ANNUAL VERIFICATION
Signed: ................................
(Signature of authorized official)
Place: .................................
Date: ..................................



3rd ANNUAL VERIFICATION
Signed: ................................
(Signature of authorized official)
Place: .................................
Date: ..................................


4th ANNUAL VERIFICATION
Signed: ................................
(Signature of authorized official)
Place: .................................
Date: ..................................

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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-20 13:15 | 显示全部楼层
ISM SMC

SAFETY MANAGEMENT CERTIFICATE

(Official seal)
(State)
Certificate No.

                      Issued under the provisions of the
INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION FOR THE SAFETY OF LIFE AT SEA, 1974,
as amended
Under the authority of the Government of
____________________________________
(name of the State)
by  __________________________________________________________________
(person or organization authorized)
Name of ship:                                     ....................................
Distinctive number or letters:        ....................................
Port of registry:                         ....................................
Type of ship*                            ...................................
Gross tonnage:                          ....................................
IMO Number:                             ....................................
Name and address of Company:    ....................................
Company identification number      ….................................
......................................
(see paragraph 1.1.2 of the ISM Code)
_______
*      Insert the type of ship from among the following: passenger ship, passenger high-speed craft, cargo high-speed craft, bulk carrier, oil tanker,  chemical tanker,  gas carrier,  mobile offshore drilling unit,  other cargo ship.


THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT the safety management system of the ship has been audited and that it complies with the requirements of the International Management Code for the Safe Operation of Ships and for Pollution Prevention (ISM Code), following verification that the Document of Compliance for the Company is applicable to this type of ship.

This Safety Management Certificate is valid until
……………..........,
subject to periodical verification and the Document of Compliance remaining valid.

Completion date of the verification on which this certificate is based:
……..................
                              (dd/mm/yyyy)
Issued at
......................................
(place of issue of the document)

Date of issue …………………..
....................................
(Signature of the duly authorized official issuing the document)

(Seal or stamp of issuing authority, as appropriate)
*  *  *
Certificate No.           

ENDORSEMENT FOR INTERMEDIATE VERIFICATION AND ADDITIONAL VERIFICATION (IF REQUIRED)

THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT, at the periodical verification in accordance with regulation IX/6.1 of the Convention and paragraph 13.8 of the ISM Code, the safety management system was found to comply with the requirements of the ISM Code.

INTERMEDIATE VERIFICATION     
(to be completed between the   
second and third anniversary
date)
Signed: ................................
(Signature of authorized official)
Place: .................................
Date: ..................................

_____________________________________________________________________


ADDITIONAL VERIFICATION*
Signed: ................................
(Signature of authorized official)
Place: .................................
Date: ..................................
ADDITIONAL VERIFICATION*
Signed: ................................
(Signature of authorized official)
Place: .................................
Date: ..................................
ADDITIONAL VERIFICATION*
Signed: ................................
(Signature of authorized official)
Place: .................................
Date: ..................................
________________
*  If applicable. Reference is made to the relevant provisions of section 3.2 "Initial verification" the Revised Guidelines on implementation of the International Safety Management (ISM) Code by Administrations adopted by the Organization by resolution A.1022(26).

*  *  *
Certificate No.
ENDORSEMENT WHERE THE RENEWAL VERIFICATION HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND PART B 13.13 OF THE ISM CODE APPLIES
The ship complies with the relevant provisions of part B of the ISM Code, and the Certificate should, in accordance with part B 13.13 of the ISM Code, be accepted as valid until …………………….
Signed .....................................
(Signature of authorized official)
Place .......................................
Date ........................................
(Seal or stamp of the authority, as appropriate)
ENDORSEMENT TO EXTEND THE VALIDITY OF THE CERTIFICATE UNTIL REACHING THE PORT OF VERIFICATION WHERE PART B 13.12 OF THE ISM CODE APPLIES OR FOR A PERIOD OF GRACE WHERE PART B 13.14 OF THE ISM CODE APPLIES
This Certificate should, in accordance with part B 13.12 or part B 13.14 of the ISM Code, be accepted as valid until …………………
Signed .....................................
(Signature of authorized official)
Place .......................................
Date ........................................  
(Seal or stamp of the authority, as appropriate)

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发表于 2021-7-20 13:25 | 显示全部楼层
sanshandaobojue 发表于 2021-7-20 12:01
It's unfair, break the law.

你不服的话,可以自己搞一个船级社,比如像新联那样。
看看有没有船东会选择入你的级
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-20 16:18 | 显示全部楼层
wudi888_2000 发表于 2021-7-20 13:25
你不服的话,可以自己搞一个船级社,比如像新联那样。
看看有没有船东会选择入你的级

Good idea!
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发表于 2021-7-22 08:53 | 显示全部楼层
恶法亦法,除非你去革命。
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-7-26 09:32 | 显示全部楼层
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